“Platforms *are* societies of intertwined people and machines. There is no such thing as “online life” versus “real life.” We give massive ground if we pretend that these companies are simply having an “effect” or “impact” on some separate society.”
I agree completely, it's why I stopped saying IRL some time ago and started saying meatspace, as opposed to cyberspace too, everything is real and I feel like those who seem to think it isn't or like to pretend it isn't online are often, though not always the ones who cause most harm online and that effect may then 'bleed' out into the 'real' world, but of course as you clearly state, that's a false dichotomy.
I agree wholeheartedly that we need to build better communities and spaces both online and off and not let those who would control such spaces for their own gain in, especially not for profit.
@laura This was good too: "Scale. Platforms want large-scale networks. They need big data, rich connections, constant surveillance. This is so their advertising profiles can be targeted, their algorithms trained, their predictive models improved. This type of scale is not necessarily the scale that works for good public life. Question platforms’ desires for scale."
@laura One of the interesting points in Snowden's autobiography was his description of the Internet of his childhood vs. today. Back then he could try on and dispose of personas and there was a stronger distinction between "real life" and "online life" that allowed one to make mistakes, mature, change ones mind, etc.
He makes a pretty strong case that many of the problems with the modern Internet are rooted in companies wanting to link real identity with online identity for ad targeting.
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